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Post by skywalker on Feb 25, 2012 8:59:43 GMT -5
I don't believe in crystal balls or flying carpets either, and the only reason I believe in psychic abilities is because I have had personal experience with them. They started for me immediately after my abduction which causes me to assume that the two things are related. That's just an assumption though. I don't know how they control people during abductions but I can tell you, once again from personal experience, that walking around with a lead helmet on my head would not have stopped them. As far as I know I have only been abducted once and it happened while I was in bed asleep. I had no way of knowing that it was going to happen. I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. There is no way that could have been prevented.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 4:35:39 GMT -5
I don't believe in crystal balls or flying carpets either, and the only reason I believe in psychic abilities is because I have had personal experience with them. They started for me immediately after my abduction which causes me to assume that the two things are related. That's just an assumption though. I don't know how they control people during abductions but I can tell you, once again from personal experience, that walking around with a lead helmet on my head would not have stopped them. As far as I know I have only been abducted once and it happened while I was in bed asleep. I had no way of knowing that it was going to happen. I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. There is no way that could have been prevented. Skywalker, the only thing I'm getting out of you is you are very much opposed to this sort of thing and are trying to discourage people from trying it. Everything a person does is controlled by their brain. Now our skull is a form of protection. A helmet such as at a construction site would be an added form of protection. By shielding your brain you are also shielding those who may be able to manipulate it sending a signal and manipulating parts of your brain to feel paralyzed or changing a persons mood so they are more cooperative. Now people observe UFO craft with instruments used during an abduction and also controls. So technology is being employed in order for them to achieve their objective. We shoot a wild animal in the wild wit a tranquelizer in order to subdue them right? They do the same thing but in a more advanced and efficiant way by directly targetting a persons brain. Abductees seek help, but I think they need more than just moral support. Discouraging an actual abduction from taking place would be the best type of help.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 6:57:10 GMT -5
www.ufobc.ca/yukon/n-canol-abd/index.htm"At that same instant, the one on the left raised his left hand to his waist, which held some type of flashlight device and I saw a bright flash of light come from it."Here is an abduction case where a being points a hand held device. The person feels paralyzed aftward. That would be technology. Shielding yourself from this type of device would be a form of defense. Nothing can be done to stop these beings? Think again. Something should be done.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 26, 2012 7:51:53 GMT -5
If somebody wants to try it then by all means go for it, but I don't think it will work.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 2:30:54 GMT -5
Interesting. More reports of a flash before paralysis: www.ufobc.ca/yukon/n-canol-abd/index.htm"At that same instant, the one on the left raised his left hand to his waist, which held some type of flashlight device and I saw a bright flash of light come from it."
Jesse Long, Jr. - Confirmation: The Hard Evidence Of Aliens Among Us? 01:40 mark "A tall looking figure, he had a rod, a long rod in his hand, a light was emitted from it, we were paralyzed."
3. Location. Santa Rosa Bolivia Date: 1969 Time: daytime Concerned for the flock the shepherd picked up a stick and ran toward the glowing shiny metallic disc. Suddenly there was a flash of violet light land the shepherd was completely paralyzed. HC addition # 3349Source: Timothy Good, Alien Base Type: B
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Post by Alien8 on Feb 29, 2012 20:15:47 GMT -5
You realize you are posting the same information/ concept on different threads right? See - forums.mufon.com/index.cgi?board=ihaveanidea&action=display&thread=356I still think this is like keeping body armor in your trunk in the event you find yourself in the middle of a shooting, or a fire suit in case of a fire, scuba gear in case you drive in the water.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 29, 2012 22:11:28 GMT -5
I think it is silly. You can't defend yourself against those crazy things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 3:27:21 GMT -5
You realize you are posting the same information/ concept on different threads right? One is about alien abduction and the other pertains to UFO-related injuries (rare but it does happen). I still think this is like keeping body armor in your trunk in the event you find yourself in the middle of a shooting, or a fire suit in case of a fire, scuba gear in case you drive in the water. You missed or ignored my point about a person having reaction time. A person usually knows when an abduction is happening (the acquisition phase) and has time to put on a helmet and protective eye wear to shield the eyes.
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Post by michaelmenkin on Mar 3, 2012 17:47:37 GMT -5
The thought screen helmet works. I've been making them and sending them to abductees all over the world for 13 years. The directions for making one are on stopabductions.com. Photos of other types of helmets are on aliensandchildren.org. Please see the case histories on stopabductions.com for more information. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 1:31:20 GMT -5
I don't know if using Velostat would work but I do agree that shielding the brain is a solution. The million dollar question is what would be effective shielding. That sort of thing takes R&D.
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Post by plutron on Mar 4, 2012 4:42:36 GMT -5
Okay after doing some research I found out that many EMF protection products tend to be scams but I also learned that effective shielding does exist. For example lead thyroid collars and aprons are used to protect people form x-rays. NASA uses titanium as effective shielding. Hello, What do you base your idea on that lead shielding may avert alien abduction? thx in advance, plutronus
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Post by plutron on Mar 4, 2012 5:26:12 GMT -5
I don't know if using Velostat would work but I do agree that shielding the brain is a solution. The million dollar question is what would be effective shielding. That sort of thing takes R&D. A bit of research of the subject might help to alleviate some of the guessing. For me, I awakened one day just 'knowing' that a 'tinfoil' (aluminum foil) hat would help me with the intrusive alien scalar activity. Initially I used tin-foil (Al) on my head, and later, somehow I found a website (this was back in 2001), where a fellow had posted directions for constructing 'VeloStat' (3M) hats, and as a courtesy, was also selling pre-made hats for folks in need. Velostat material is very good for 'shielding' electrostatic electricity. However, I had similar material in my home and at my work-place, so I just fashioned a 'Pvt Beetle-Bailey' style hat using anti-static charcoal bag material, which provided some relief from the nightly on-going attacks I was suffering at the time. At my work, we had a full spectrum Faraday-Cage or as we called it, a 'screen-room'. I exspended several weekends inside of the screen-room, which to my surprise, afforded no effect on the problem. I also attempted using various strategies, to detect and/or measure the negative 'influence' (or what ever the h.e.l.l. it is?) but to no avail. The instruments I used (we had four or five different models in the Lab) Agilent (Hewlett Packard) spectrum analyzers, all were in calibration (all of them in the $100k price range). In my home-lab, I also have several instruments, including a laboratory-grade calibrated nuclear survey instrument, which also failed to detect anything out of the ordinary in the ambient environment. My point being, Aliens are not beaming nuclear radiation (gamma rays or beta/alpha particles) or radio-waves at abductees, it is something else. It is something we don't yet understand. It is a perplexing problem. I don't know how an antistatic/VeloStat bag works to shield the effects of what I believe was alien mind-control attacks, all I know is that it does work. However, it is my opinion, there are different forms of attack, and the antistatic/VeloStat material is not effective across the entire attack 'spectrum'. The only course that brought full relief, was the cessation of my activities of investigating/studying alien presence. I was forced to stop. Frankly, I am very reluctant to venture into those activities again, now that most of the fires are out, though I am still smoking in a few places. My experience was foremost illuminating, becoming frightening and ultimately very painful. But I know. They are here and they are NOT our space brothers. plutronus ModLog: correct lexical anomalies
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Post by plutron on Mar 4, 2012 5:41:26 GMT -5
I don't believe in crystal balls or flying carpets either, and the only reason I believe in psychic abilities is because I have had personal experience with them. They started for me immediately after my abduction which causes me to assume that the two things are related. That's just an assumption though. I don't know how they control people during abductions but I can tell you, once again from personal experience, that walking around with a lead helmet on my head would not have stopped them. As far as I know I have only been abducted once and it happened while I was in bed asleep. I had no way of knowing that it was going to happen. I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. There is no way that could have been prevented. >I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. When you were paralyzed, did you feel strangely? Such as a strong current flowing through your body? thx, plutronus
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Post by plutron on Mar 4, 2012 5:47:32 GMT -5
You realize you are posting the same information/ concept on different threads right? One is about alien abduction and the other pertains to UFO-related injuries (rare but it does happen). I still think this is like keeping body armor in your trunk in the event you find yourself in the middle of a shooting, or a fire suit in case of a fire, scuba gear in case you drive in the water. You missed or ignored my point about a person having reaction time. A person usually knows when an abduction is happening (the acquisition phase) and has time to put on a helmet and protective eye wear to shield the eyes. Apparently you have not been abducted. Also, there are multiple forms of so-called 'abduction', in my experience. One form is physical, many folks don't recall the experience, while the more common form, in my opinion, is the psi-abduction, where the aliens take one's consciousness so-to-speak into their activity-space, it is during this abduction form that most have conscious awareness. In the first actuality, the experiencer has virtually no awareness let alone a 'reaction period' to defend themselves, while in the second form, their body is not present in the activity and there is nothing physical present to protect. plutronus
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Post by skywalker on Mar 4, 2012 18:01:47 GMT -5
I don't believe in crystal balls or flying carpets either, and the only reason I believe in psychic abilities is because I have had personal experience with them. They started for me immediately after my abduction which causes me to assume that the two things are related. That's just an assumption though. I don't know how they control people during abductions but I can tell you, once again from personal experience, that walking around with a lead helmet on my head would not have stopped them. As far as I know I have only been abducted once and it happened while I was in bed asleep. I had no way of knowing that it was going to happen. I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. There is no way that could have been prevented. >I just woke up and I was already paralyzed. When you were paralyzed, did you feel strangely? Such as a strong current flowing through your body? thx, plutronus Yes, I do recall feeling like there was a current running through me, and there was a huge amount of energy in the room. A light was shining like the sun all throughout the room and the air sparkled with energy. I was completely paralyzed and was having trouble breathing but I could still move my eyes and look around. Then when I floated up into the air I could feel these electrical vibrations...kind of like a deep, throbbing base sound that I could feel all over. It was extremely weird. I seriously doubt that any lead helmet or tinfoil hat or suit of armor would have prevented that.
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