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Post by jbj on Jul 23, 2011 10:37:08 GMT -5
I have put alot of thought into this. 100's of sightings from ireland to california, all describing the same objects, time, same appearance & flight pattern. Over the last few years-same time frame.[Mufon is a good sight, I know they are limited, but at least we get to speak about this here, because of them.] I am 100% positive, these are not flares, lanterns, or any other thing from earth. The position, & rotation of the earth, around the time of july 4th, has had repeatable sightings. It seems they vary a few hours per year. They are stationary asteroids. When we pass by them, they seem to be slightly pulled by the earth. I watched one go off at tremendous speed in 2009, slightly arching upward as it went away. I finally figured it was the spin of the earth, moving east, [down]that made it look like an arch, & the object was stationary. As WE moved away from it, at 60 some thousand miles per hour.[the earths speed around the sun] I know there are at least three. [No b.s. about lanterns or flares PLEASE!] I hope the govt. is monitoring this, & taking immediate action to deflect them. When I first saw them, I didn't know what to make of them. Until I drew the position, and movement of the earth out [recently] & it all made sense. & yes the lanterns are similar, but they do not match the size, brightness, speed, ground area covered in such a short time. [& they don't burn out!] There are few that will take my words seriously. The govt. will not tell us what they know. & that's o.k. July is the flyby time-2nd-3rd-or 4th. I think it will be early 3rd or late 2nd,next year.Northern part of the earth. I'll be watching w/ a big meade telescope, hope the weather is clear. If you've seen them, you KNOW. Any slow rising-drifting-most likely lanterns. The asteroids come in very bright & big, arch, and move away at a very high[faster then jet] speed. No mistaking them.
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Post by whodat on Jul 23, 2011 11:21:30 GMT -5
I sure hope that you are right about the expected date for them to show up next year, because I would love to see some good photos or video of them. I haven't seen them so I won't pretend to know what you are seeing, but I'm wondering about what kind of orbit they would have to be so consistent. I mean, if they were actually stationary, that would seem odd to my unscientific mind, since the orbits of objects are what keep them from being sucked into some other object by gravity. That would mean that they would have to have some kind of propulsion to remain stationary in relation to other objects, like the sun. (I'm thinking) Maybe their small mass would mean a much slower speed is necessary to maintain a stable orbit, but it still looks like coming so close to earth would upset that orbit and send them on another path. Just thinking through my keyboard here... not trying to poop on your hypothesis. Obviously, I don't know what they are. I'm hopeful that you or someone else gets great video to show next time. I'm down south, so I doubt they would be visible, but I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for them too. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter!!
Bill
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Post by jbj on Jul 24, 2011 11:47:47 GMT -5
There are variables to just about everything. Attraction or repulsion of an object in space, depends also on it's own field strength. No one said these objects are orbiting, I believe stationary, similar to predicted meteor showers that we pass through annually. If any change or pull from the sun or other, it's most likely slight from the earth. Or they would not be there every year as we pass that particular point in orbit around the sun. As far as bieng down south, they were seen as far down s. as florida. In 2009, they appeared to come down to almost 45 degrees. But they were so high, they were seen east from ireland[in a line], south from florida & a few other states[in a group], west to california[in a line]. I thought the same thing, bieng they would have no "propulsion" bieng rock or metal. Making them vulnerable to any action from the earth's passing/field. But they must not be affected much, they are in a "near" area every year. 2011 they were very north, at least half the distance south they were in 2009. If they are orbiting the sun, they are in the same orbit as earth. That would mean they would also be seen around late december also. given an un parallel exactly timed orbit. a bad chance, in a few trillion. Size has nothing to do w/ speed. Charge/field strength/physical makeup of object, would dictate it's movement more.
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Post by izzdan on Jul 26, 2011 5:36:23 GMT -5
I'm not gonna buy that sorry, i've seen these objects just a few hundred feet from me. I doubt there's any stationary asteroids hundreds of feet from me. You must be seeing something totally different from me. What im seeing is CLOSE not out in space somewhere.
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Post by izzdan on Jul 26, 2011 5:39:00 GMT -5
Also i've never heard of stationary Asteroids, sounds kinda strange. Im sure they'd have been noticed by now by someone. Im really confused on what you're even talking about.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 26, 2011 8:00:35 GMT -5
These fireballs that people are seeing show up all throughout the year. I think the reason people see more of them on the 4th of July is just because there are a lot of people outside looking up at the sky watching fireworks. When you have millions of people looking up on that one holiday there are going to be an increase in sightings. That doesn't mean that the number of fireballs increase on that day though.
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Post by mo on Jul 26, 2011 14:33:49 GMT -5
Hi jbj and Izzdan If you would like to have someone from the State of Texas review your case just contact the state management and tell them your concerns. I am sure that the explanation can be clarified or reassessed. Here is the link to the Texas contacts. www.mufon.com/MapPages/TX.htmlDo you by chance remember your case numbers?
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Post by jbj on Jul 27, 2011 0:40:00 GMT -5
Izzdan, you are most likely seeing these balloons they are selling now. If the wind is fast, they move fast,slow...they just rise slow & wobble. I've seen them close up too. Many people, hundreds! have reported the objects I'm concerned with. & that's just counting the people who reported them. And yes there are many types of objects in space that do not have a fixed orbit. Meandering in space, where ever they are pulled or stopped. Yet there are small asteriods that orbit each other. Every combination you can think of, is out there. THE prime example is our moon. It is repelled, yet attracted. Bieng held by it's balance of weight,[ why it does not spin! heavy side toward earth] & static charge, to the earth. So ANYTHING is possible, we don't have a say in it. To the moderator...I doubt anyone in the know will tell anything to the public, so it's all just observation, & hope it turns out well. Thank you for the info though.
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Post by izzdan on Jul 27, 2011 4:57:32 GMT -5
Im not seeing balloons. I got a damn video and photos. They're very odd. I've seen flashes of lights like I said before when its crystal clear outside that can't be explained. These flashes show up in the sky with NOTHING there. Its pretty open sky here and when the moon is full its easy to see if theres something in the sky. These things appear out of nowhere and put on strange light patterns. I've seen them appear like this O O O O O in a row, the first one came on then the 2nd etc. Then when the last one came on it did a reverse pattern and came on in the same sequence but backwards. Im not gonna buy no balloon or flare. Been living in or around military bases for 30 years, not anything i've ever seen before.
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Post by izzdan on Jul 27, 2011 4:58:49 GMT -5
mo, I haven't seen these lights since April, but if they start appearing again i'll use that site. Thanks!
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Post by izzdan on Jul 27, 2011 5:02:28 GMT -5
I have some of my case #'s saved. they're 27002, 26633, 26831, and 26903
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Post by skywalker on Jul 27, 2011 12:40:43 GMT -5
I saw one of these lights just a couple of weeks ago. The sky was very clear and it just appeared out of nowhere then blinked off and was gone. There were no planes or satellites anywhere near it. It wasn't a meteor neither. I have no idea what it was.
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Post by jbj on Jul 28, 2011 22:30:54 GMT -5
I just can't get my mind around the objects that I saw, bieng anything else but asteroids. Reason bieng repeated timing, & the sheer size of those things. I think, if something were to build such a huge thing, it would only have to be big, to carry many things or big things. I'm convinced if a craft is needed to travel, they are tool makers like us. Izzad...are the things your seeing like big orange globes that appear to be lit from within, possessing tremendous manuverabilities and speeds? & are they always in a certain part of the sky, say north, moving in one direction or another? I tried to look up case #s you gave but had no luck.
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Post by izzdan on Aug 8, 2011 1:19:24 GMT -5
They don't move if they're moving its very slowly. Usually in the same part of the sky, same general area at least. I've seen planes coming in to land at the small regional airport we have here and i've seen these lights appear in the flight patch of these planes, i've seen them appear behind the planes and close to the planes. Doesn't seem to be a very safe thing to do if it's our military getting in the way of commercial airplanes. I got a video i'll post and a picture I took. The picture isn't much but it's still weird. I gotta figure out how to post the picture not to tech savvy when it comes to computers. If someone can tell me how that would be awesome. I can post links of other peoples videos but mines saved on my computer and i'm not sure how to get it to post.
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Post by jbj on Aug 21, 2011 15:26:15 GMT -5
Izzdan, you may be seeing something different then the objects I'm describing. When I comment on them, I mean no disrespect to what you have seen. To see something for yourself, is unique. Thoughts of how they make sense, will get your brain spinning. The objects I witnessed, were not man made, I'm sure. I checked near earth object sites. It IS possible the objects have an orbit! I found "ae2011"? that also crosses our orbit around jan. 1st there abouts. This could be the group of asteroids that intersect w/ our orbit. Presuming they orbit in a timely manner w/ the earth, they should come scarely close the begining of jan.back to late days of dec., & also july 4th up to july 1st. I wish I knew if nasa sent up multiple rockets lately, to deflect thier orbits. I do not for one second, believe these are "spaceships" or anything made by man. But a threat to our existence. If this is true, all resources on earth, have to be utilized to deflect them! But bieng a "nobody", I'll not recieve correspondence from anyone who really knows. Nothing the average person can do, except enjoy the most important things in your life while we can.[& if nothing happens, we enjoyed some quality time at least] It would cause panic & chaos, to inform the public. I've seen ufo's before, they are an exiting thing to see! satelites that flash from spinning, ones that have propulsion units on them so they can change direction to observe a given area. Experimental craft, etc... I have studied science, astronomy, advanced perspective, & other things since childhood. This is something different! I just wish I got a messege telling me the projected paths, & risks, so I could shut my mouth & curiosity, & let it be.
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