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Post by zant on Feb 23, 2012 16:58:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry that sucks I feel oddly connected to the Grays for some odd reason...no idea why. Have you ever thought of undergoing hypnosis? That way you can remember your experience..although if its giving you nightmares not sure if you'd wanna lol
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Post by skywalker on Feb 23, 2012 20:11:36 GMT -5
I have thought about hypnosis. I haven't convinced myself to do it yet because I'm not sure how accurate the memories that are retrieved really are. I may do it sometime in the future though. I really would like to know exactly what happened and why they are doing it to people. There has to be a reason for it all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 2:13:35 GMT -5
Because usually the implants they put in your body are to help heal you...lol idk I have read a lot of UFO books and hypnosis books on people who have been abducted and usually no harm is ever done to the abductee...I get it, its scary but honestly most people are afraid of what they dont understand the whole society has made it that aliens = bad. So therefore being abducted = bad? eh... Troll nonsense. People's lives are turned upside down by alien abductions. They are hurt both physicaly and mentally. There are plenty of cases posted in this forum to give you a clue.
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Post by zant on Feb 24, 2012 12:23:21 GMT -5
Um I'm not a troll so whatever
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2012 15:29:21 GMT -5
Troll nonsense. People's lives are turned upside down by alien abductions. They are hurt both physicaly and mentally. There are plenty of cases posted in this forum to give you a clue. You are determined to make enemies everywhere you go aren't you Phil?
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Post by jeffdanielk on Feb 25, 2012 18:15:52 GMT -5
If you don't recall much about your abduction experience, how do you know that it wasn't just a vivid dream or hallucination?
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Post by skywalker on Feb 25, 2012 21:32:48 GMT -5
Because my best friend had the exact same experience that same night. We were sharing an apartment at the time. He told me about what he had experienced the very next morning. The details were identical. If it had not been for that I would have brushed it off as just a weird dream but how can two people have the exact same dream at the same time?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 0:18:19 GMT -5
You are determined to make enemies everywhere you go aren't you Phil? Claiming abductions are only a little scarry for people isn't accurate. Read or watch the abduction accounts posted in this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 0:55:37 GMT -5
If you don't recall much about your abduction experience, how do you know that it wasn't just a vivid dream or hallucination? Some of his stories like observing a house disapear seem a little suspect. I have my doubts about his own abduction story.
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Post by shenachie on Apr 1, 2012 14:15:25 GMT -5
emphezrha ; You're in the same boat I was. I 'became aware' when I began to recollect abduction experiences from more than 30 years ago. I eventually engaged a psychologist to help me deal with it. After a few sessions, he helped me immensely by ruling out insanity. Prior to that, I didn't believe that would be so much of an issue. But afterward, I realized that it is a critical juncture. Critical since you can't move forward till you rule out insanity. As you said, we 'hope' it's something that can be treated with a pill. But after 3 years, I have learned to deal with the memories. It is empowering to me to be able to succeed with rationally dealing with something that most people cannot. I highly recommend psychotherapy with one caveat - the therapist MUST be open to the possibility. Personally, I guess I'm a 'Positive'. I can't see any bad intent by the Visitors. Dr. Jacobs and the other 'Negatives'' views on the subject are valid. But there is simply no way to quantify the experience through objective analysis. 'The experience' is so far beyond our ability to understand, that no one can understand what we've gone through. Nor can anyone else comprehend what it's like to constantly experience the phenomena aspect of the experience, which is ongoing throughout our lives. That's why I've gotten more out of reading 'abductees'' books rather than investigators' books. My experience leads me to think that 'a' main focus of 'abduction' is communication. That's one reason I've forgone hypnotic regression - most of my memories of what happens onboard are deleted. Except for certain segments that I strongly feel that they want me to remember. Although I can't think of anything more difficult to deal with than memory of 'mind scan', it may very well be that some memories are denied me for my own good. That seems to assume 'benevolence' but could be simply correct lab procedure. Deciding if the Visitors are 'good or bad' is beyond me. 'Simple' communication with this intelligence is so 'mind numbing', many humans likely loose control of their bowels. I don't think they wish us to suffer. The experiences seem to me to be to force evolution upon us. Whatever direction you choose to go, look forward to difficulty adjusting to the Brave New World that you live in. But when you've made progress on the journey, the rewards are increased perception of reality.
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Post by jeffdanielk on Jul 19, 2012 17:21:55 GMT -5
Has anyone tried posting a video or infrared camera in your room to try to catch an actual alien abduction on film? What do you think about this idea? Why has noone ever tried this?
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Post by skywalker on Jul 20, 2012 10:56:36 GMT -5
Somebody on my forum is attempting to do that. So far the camera has mysteriously shut off twice but hasn't recorded anything else unusual.
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Post by dansgirl on Aug 21, 2012 16:01:51 GMT -5
Emphezrsa: i am so sorry that you are going through this and no one asked your permission to do this to you. I can't begin to say for sure what you experienced but i can say that you are not crazy. I have dealt with mental illness for years (it runs in my family) and it does not leave scars that look like surgery scars and footprints. As far as leaving a camera, if these "things" are as smart as they sound and are capeable of doing something to your mind so you cant even take a picture to document the footprints, then I am sure they know how to turn off a video camera, even if it is hidden. I hope you are able to find some peace.
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Post by hiddentreasure99 on Apr 25, 2015 15:55:49 GMT -5
at one point i just stopped reading. there are some good people here. but my experience is specific because i believe every experience is real and meant something. ive been abducted physically by the shadow government and many more times by aliens. they abduct people in multiple ways. there are several degrees of abduction. there are the physical ones, mental ones ie. dream dimension encounters and spiritual abductions. sometimes even combined ones. for example i was dreaming or so i thought. i was in a stte of consciousness but physically asleep and immobile. meanwhile i felt a sraping on my back and an injeection of some sort. i have a mark there that itches every now and then an i was freaking out. i wanted to grab the damn thing and maybe beat the crap out of it. they dont leave me alone if they can help it. it was a pair of seven foot tall greys. a spiritual abduction is a misdirection. they wait till, you leave the body and take the conscious sector away tov learn things and such but in reality they also have your body performing tests on it elsewhere. most cases this is you dreaming or so you thought of seeing yourself asleep when is all over. the mental ones are mosty in another dimension simply named the other world. this iswhere fourth dimensional laws apply and im totally flexible most of the time. i often get my consciousness called here only to be captured by shadow federal agents. but this is fine because 7 out of 10 times an alien is what they take me too. one time it was twins. i used a spiritual pressure wave and obliterated the sector. leaving a few humans behind. what was awesome was an undercover agent helped me escape but to no avail i was using electromagnetic pulses and i shorted some nervous system. i have a thing against killing humans. this merely disconnects thir consciusness knocking them out.
ive had several encounters and most occuring in other dimensions where ether is available to use. however I, at one point grew tired of being outfoxed as i grew in power, each new edge drew stronger challenges. so i prayed to god and told him to keep them away unless he thought i needed some practice or something. because of this protection i rarely get physical visitations anymore. each time it happens it was because i forgot to pray.\
as for someone to talk too the alien abduction help forum is a good place if you could accept the scars and memories to be true. even if terrible stuff happened to you it doesnt need to be sectored off in hopes of being a lie. more than likely it happened. ive had terrible stuff hapen to me but icmade it because i accepted it. i moved on growing stronger.
also does this stuff stil happen? as an adept being, i know how to teach one to fully understand their true potential and abilities to help the mibd fully understand the situation. i have nlocked much of te analytical potentials of my mind. empathy is merely one branch. well trained empaths should be able to create a mental 360 degree view of whats going on even if blinded in the eyes. one who channels could here the frequncies of chatter and intentions. these are the two important psychic skills used in abduction scenarios.
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