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List of alleged aircraft-UFO incidents and near misses
Headlines: "Pilot Ordered To Shoot-Down UFO Over UK"
Milton Torres 1957 UFO Encounter
UFO Shootdowns
Date: 12-06-07
Host: George Noory
Guests: Stanton Friedman, Frank Feschino, Rosemary Ellen Guiley
www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2007/12/06
UFO researchers Stanton Friedman & Frank Feschino Jr. discussed fighter accidents & vanished planes in the 1950s, which they related to UFOs and the military's 'shoot down' era. In the 1950s, the US military had standing orders to shoot down unidentified craft if they didn't land when instructed-- and it appears that UFOs shot back, said Friedman. There is no question that our planes were the aggressors, he commented.
There were many pilot deaths and mysterious military plane incidents during the early to mid 1950s. In fact, the New York Times, described jets as "disintegrated and disappeared" in their coverage, Friedman reported. Feschino detailed how aF-86 jet fighter plane crashed in SouthGlastonbury, CT on August 5, 1952 under mysterious circumstances and connected it to a UFO flap that was occurring that summer. Project Bluebook contained 1500 reports from 1952, with over 300 of them classified as unidentified, he continued.
The Flatwoods Monster case also took place in the summer of '52-- there were sightings over 11 states the night the curious craft/robot set down in Braxton County, Feschino noted. On that same night, thirty objects were seen coming in over the Eastern Seaboard, and appeared to be following a craft that was damaged, he added. Friedman suggested that the US military eventually gave up on their shootdown policy, and instead began simply observing UFOs with their instruments. The Betty & Barney Hill case, which Friedman wrote about in his new book Captured! was also discussed
UFO Shootdowns
First hour guest, UFO expert Nick Pope reported that Britain's Royal Air Force has tried to shoot down UFOs over the years as part of a governmental directive. More here.
RAF 'ordered to shoot down UFOs'
By Daily Telegraph Reporter 8:14AM GMT 26 Jan 2009
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/4342884/RAF-ordered-to-shoot-down-UFOs.html
Pilots have apparently fired upon the unidentified objects without success since the 1980s, according to Nick Pope, who used to run the Ministry of Defence's UFO project.
"There was a faction in the MoD who said 'We want to shoot down a UFO and that will resolve the issue one way or another'," he told The Sun.
"We know of cases where the order has been given to shoot down - with little effect to the UFO."
Mr Pope claimed that the RAF only attempted to engage when the mysterious objects were perceived to be a threat.
He said: "In the case of UFOs, whether the object is causing a threat is very much a pilot's judgement call. The public won't know unless it comes down in a heavily populated area."
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Colman von Keviczky was the first that hinted at SDI was used against ET craft or FastWalkers before Colonel Phillip Corso, Hon. Paul Hellyer, Carol Rosin et al.
"Project Saint and SDI both have been interpreted, though with no persuasive evidence for such a view, as possible responses to a percieved national security threat from UFOs."
That's in the book:
The Definitive Guide To Unidentified Flying Objects And Related Phenomena By David Ritchie
There is speculation that some Star Wars funds were diverted to other programs. i.e. SDI was just a cover.
I was present once when Dr. Edward Teller of the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory said he needed $20 million for more studies of an already completed experiment on the X-ray laser. -- "Teller's War," William J. Broad
templeoftheinfidel.com/Obituary.html
Flanked by physicist Edward Teller (left) and Lt. Gen. James A. Abrahamson, director of the Strategic Defense Initiative, President Reagan arrives to address a conference marking the first five years of the SDI program on March 14, 1988, in Washington. (Associated Press
When the president's science advisor George Keyworth was explaining the SDI research program, Colman pointed out with that roaring voice he had that 'star wars' was really aimed against the galactic forces and not the Soviets. The science advisor was not pleased. On another occasion he confronted his fellow Hungarian-American, Dr. Edward Teller, the inventor of the H bomb.
Ronald Reagan Alien Threat UN speech in 1987 and 1988.
Headlines: "Pilot Ordered To Shoot-Down UFO Over UK"
Milton Torres 1957 UFO Encounter
UFO Shootdowns
Date: 12-06-07
Host: George Noory
Guests: Stanton Friedman, Frank Feschino, Rosemary Ellen Guiley
www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2007/12/06
UFO researchers Stanton Friedman & Frank Feschino Jr. discussed fighter accidents & vanished planes in the 1950s, which they related to UFOs and the military's 'shoot down' era. In the 1950s, the US military had standing orders to shoot down unidentified craft if they didn't land when instructed-- and it appears that UFOs shot back, said Friedman. There is no question that our planes were the aggressors, he commented.
There were many pilot deaths and mysterious military plane incidents during the early to mid 1950s. In fact, the New York Times, described jets as "disintegrated and disappeared" in their coverage, Friedman reported. Feschino detailed how aF-86 jet fighter plane crashed in SouthGlastonbury, CT on August 5, 1952 under mysterious circumstances and connected it to a UFO flap that was occurring that summer. Project Bluebook contained 1500 reports from 1952, with over 300 of them classified as unidentified, he continued.
The Flatwoods Monster case also took place in the summer of '52-- there were sightings over 11 states the night the curious craft/robot set down in Braxton County, Feschino noted. On that same night, thirty objects were seen coming in over the Eastern Seaboard, and appeared to be following a craft that was damaged, he added. Friedman suggested that the US military eventually gave up on their shootdown policy, and instead began simply observing UFOs with their instruments. The Betty & Barney Hill case, which Friedman wrote about in his new book Captured! was also discussed
UFO Shootdowns
First hour guest, UFO expert Nick Pope reported that Britain's Royal Air Force has tried to shoot down UFOs over the years as part of a governmental directive. More here.
RAF 'ordered to shoot down UFOs'
By Daily Telegraph Reporter 8:14AM GMT 26 Jan 2009
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/4342884/RAF-ordered-to-shoot-down-UFOs.html
Pilots have apparently fired upon the unidentified objects without success since the 1980s, according to Nick Pope, who used to run the Ministry of Defence's UFO project.
"There was a faction in the MoD who said 'We want to shoot down a UFO and that will resolve the issue one way or another'," he told The Sun.
"We know of cases where the order has been given to shoot down - with little effect to the UFO."
Mr Pope claimed that the RAF only attempted to engage when the mysterious objects were perceived to be a threat.
He said: "In the case of UFOs, whether the object is causing a threat is very much a pilot's judgement call. The public won't know unless it comes down in a heavily populated area."
--------------------------------------------------------
Colman von Keviczky was the first that hinted at SDI was used against ET craft or FastWalkers before Colonel Phillip Corso, Hon. Paul Hellyer, Carol Rosin et al.
"Project Saint and SDI both have been interpreted, though with no persuasive evidence for such a view, as possible responses to a percieved national security threat from UFOs."
That's in the book:
The Definitive Guide To Unidentified Flying Objects And Related Phenomena By David Ritchie
There is speculation that some Star Wars funds were diverted to other programs. i.e. SDI was just a cover.
I was present once when Dr. Edward Teller of the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory said he needed $20 million for more studies of an already completed experiment on the X-ray laser. -- "Teller's War," William J. Broad
templeoftheinfidel.com/Obituary.html
Flanked by physicist Edward Teller (left) and Lt. Gen. James A. Abrahamson, director of the Strategic Defense Initiative, President Reagan arrives to address a conference marking the first five years of the SDI program on March 14, 1988, in Washington. (Associated Press
When the president's science advisor George Keyworth was explaining the SDI research program, Colman pointed out with that roaring voice he had that 'star wars' was really aimed against the galactic forces and not the Soviets. The science advisor was not pleased. On another occasion he confronted his fellow Hungarian-American, Dr. Edward Teller, the inventor of the H bomb.
Ronald Reagan Alien Threat UN speech in 1987 and 1988.