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Post by synergy on Jan 12, 2012 1:47:37 GMT -5
Most scientific journals provide excerpts of all articles, if not whole articles at times, for free. These articles are also searchable. Granted the MUFON Journal doesn't often provide articles on experiment results, I still feel both an article topic search function and (more importantly) an excerpt from every article would be very beneficial.
Let's face it, many people don't care enough to pay and others (such as myself, being a broke college kid) can't afford to pay for subscription even if we wanted to! It would be nice to get a gist of new developments instead of being left completely in the dark to MUFON developments.
I would like to commend MUFON for allowing the posting of old MUFON Journal editions on The Black Vault Wiki, which was most helpful. For example, I never would have known of the abduction experiments to record environmental data that would confirm an abduction, an idea I have long been developing myself. However, I may never know the results of that experiment because I am not a MUFON subscriber and don't have access to newer editions that would potentially have reviewed the results. More could certainly be done.
I feel MUFON is brutally failing at its most important duty -- public engagement and promotion of the scientific integrity of UFO research.
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Post by synergy on Jan 12, 2012 1:52:54 GMT -5
On another note, I understand the majority of MUFON Journal articles are more editorial in nature. How about having a consistent, technical, peer reviewed section, utilizing an independent medium of qualified, impartial analysts, being added to the Journal covering some measurable scientific aspect of the phenomenon. If there isn't enough evidence to be reviewed monthly, how about bi-monthly, or quarterly, etc? We need to do more to develop scientific integrity, and to reach out to the scientific community.
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Post by Alien8 on Feb 1, 2012 18:01:24 GMT -5
I think the journal is excellent. My only suggestions would be to allow the E-Journal to be printed. My other suggestion is that the E-journal be available on the first of every month.
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Post by Alien8 on Feb 13, 2012 17:16:02 GMT -5
As an example to my prior post, the journal was received by regular mail subscribers days ago. however, it is now 2/13/2012 and the E-journal online is still not available. While I look forward to all the great things coming forward to MUFON, as a paid subscriber as well, I am a little disappointed.
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Post by carddown on Mar 11, 2012 13:44:03 GMT -5
Almost mid-March and the new Journal is not yet online.
It'd be nice if it was up sooner each month, and announced by an automated e-mail to subscribers.
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Post by orion61 on Mar 14, 2012 17:31:28 GMT -5
Our visitors come in different ships, we see them as cigars or Uncle Martin's ship. Their knowledge they want us to know but we are stubborn. Our lovely government, doesn't want us to know this. I have never seen a ship yet. But I sense they are out there.
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Post by carddown on May 6, 2012 15:10:25 GMT -5
Is the May journal out yet? I can't access my E-Journal yet, but I've had these problems beofre.
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Post by awmperry on May 6, 2012 18:39:16 GMT -5
On another note, I understand the majority of MUFON Journal articles are more editorial in nature. How about having a consistent, technical, peer reviewed section, utilizing an independent medium of qualified, impartial analysts, being added to the Journal covering some measurable scientific aspect of the phenomenon. If there isn't enough evidence to be reviewed monthly, how about bi-monthly, or quarterly, etc? We need to do more to develop scientific integrity, and to reach out to the scientific community. I think that'd be an excellent idea - I'm right with you on that one. |
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Post by swamprat on May 6, 2012 19:17:21 GMT -5
carddown, I received my print copy mid last week.
Swamprat
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Post by carddown on May 9, 2012 19:41:44 GMT -5
Thanks, the I finally got the e-Journal May 9.
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Post by awmperry on May 10, 2012 10:22:06 GMT -5
Does it go out to everyone at the same time, or does it somehow get sent out in phases?
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Post by synergy on Mar 22, 2013 18:24:24 GMT -5
So, nobody thinks the journal needs improvement?
Is MUFON succeeding in public engagement and establishing the scientific integrity of the phenomenon?
MUFON is too closed off from the public, in my opinion. I'm losing confidence in the organization as a means of moving this issue forward. They should take note of the accomplishments of NICAP and APRO.
What is MUFON doing to improve?
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Post by Starchild on Jul 21, 2016 11:29:37 GMT -5
NICAP and APRO are long gone and MUFON is still around. It's weak on analysis, but at least is still collecting reports and offering the annual convention.
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Post by searcher on Oct 20, 2016 18:29:01 GMT -5
On another note, I understand the majority of MUFON Journal articles are more editorial in nature. How about having a consistent, technical, peer reviewed section, utilizing an independent medium of qualified, impartial analysts, being added to the Journal covering some measurable scientific aspect of the phenomenon. If there isn't enough evidence to be reviewed monthly, how about bi-monthly, or quarterly, etc? We need to do more to develop scientific integrity, and to reach out to the scientific community. synergy, I AGREE 1000% WITH YOUR SUGGESTION! I was going to suggest exactly that myself. Certainly the journal as is appeals to the non-technical members, but we with technical and scientific background would very much like to see a more in-depth treatise of the more significant investigations and research. This would be an appropriate product of the Science Review Board. I would very much like to see DATA and said data reduced to derive meaningful conclusions, as opposed to cellphone photographs of a Tri-Field meter. |
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Post by A Vico Reader on Mar 19, 2017 17:38:48 GMT -5
The most striking aspect of the Delonge charade is the complete cowardice shown by the US military in not sitting down with the mainstream scientific community beforehand and divulging the extent of what they know. To provide – via Delonge – some form of apologetic angle for their secrecy, disinformation, and discredit that, incidentally, has affected, destroyed, even ‘terminated’ those brave enough to state a case for truth in explaining the phenomenon itself has resulted in a chasm from which any credible claim for official co-operation – at this late stage – proves extremely questionable to say the least. The fact remains that since the 1930’s the intelligence gathered by global government agencies has done little to get to the actual crux of the UFO/ET phenomenon. The untold trepidation in delivering a full ‘disclosure’ rests solely on delivering a comprehension of what has yet to be comprehended. Non terrestrial bodies, races, retrieved discs, abduction accounts, sightings (visual and radar),etc, are but one chapter of a much broader and layered narrative. That academics such a Valee speculate on the intervention in ‘folklore’ of the phenomenon, and rightly so, only adds yet another angle in contemplating our understanding of what this is – this thing in itself. However, the UFO community has, in some respects played patsy for a story without an author nor ending. The audience has grown accustom to the average UFO news report which starts off serious then concludes in ridicule with the poor UFO expert in the background left grimacing on the satellite link as the anchor man’s patronising evaluation sends it’s overall subjective importance straight back to square one. There has, however, been some noticeable increase in media coverage over the last ten years but overall this has been a more commercial rather than scientific shift with often shallow ‘paranormal’ productions with an almost all too familiar cast of believers, experts and skeptics.
It is a question therefore of instinctual self-education that has bought me to conclude the following;
1. The phenomenon has NO positives, there are NO good factors involved – period
2. The phenomenon and its relation to humanity is not that we are slave but simply a resource – it is therefore parasitic
3. The phenomenon and the conflicting agendas via races therein cannot be stopped by any synthetic force – regardless of whatever technology has been transferred/developed in the interim
4. The phenomenon cannot be determined through a single extraterrestrial agenda but many agendas exerted by numerous races over a long period of time but not entirely limited to time and that it remains both earthbound and somewhat localised in what could be described as near space
5. The phenomenon has used and continues to use false projections to effectively produce control systems/religious systems/doubt systems in human behaviour
5b. The phenomenon has used and continues to use false projections to effectively curb negative reactions towards given agendas within social human behaviours
5c. The phenomenon has and continues to effectively tweak the populous in removing the flaw ie. ‘character’ gene from human DNA
5d. The phenomenon has already infiltrated the populous with numerous non-human controllers, observers and signallers
6. The phenomenon has manipulated/utilised the fertile elements of human DNA in order to provide a robust procreative vessel – a resource for atma (see below reading)
6b. The phenomenon manipulates key figures to gain socio political division, advantage, discord thereby avoiding any harmonious/unified government (anti-Babel agenda)
7. The phenomenon’s’ interest rests solely in the cultivation and harvest of the atma
8. The phenomenon – in part – is ready to pull the plug – publicly and soon (the US has full knowledge of this event)
Those interested in the atma and its connection with the phenomena should consider the following:
1. The Platonic Theory of Form (everything is becoming but nothing actually is) and its relation to the following:
a. Upanishad text, in relation a. the atma, the Brahman and peeling back the Veil of Maya
b. Schopenhauer’s interpretation and application of both of the above texts, with its obvious mistakes but underlying correctness in both the delivery and conclusion of mankind as a “mistake” (WAW&R)
This should give you some grounding as to the de-anima/atma and the relationship between atma (thing in itself) and the Brahman (the higher division of being – the greater whole) and our purpose in relation to both in regards to the phenomenon. You should also…
2. Read Giambattista Vico and understand that history is not known only assumed as such
3. Also worth reading is Plato/Aristotle/Aurelius/Cicero in relation to the ‘orb’ – consider the shared dictum: totus teres ataque rotundus
As I did, you may come to a similar conclusion to me in regards to humanity as a resource for atma. Hope this helps.
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